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		<title>Social Media Doesn&#8217;t Always Lead to Instant Click Conversions</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Li Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share This post is part of a series entitled The Four Pillars of Social Media.  This week’s topics revolve around the fourth &#38; final pillar, Measurement. Today&#8217;s post wraps up our series on the Four Pillars of Social Media here on Social Conversations.  In this series we covered how to research, plan a strategy, engage [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2010/06/social-media-lead-click-conversions/">Social Media Doesn&#8217;t Always Lead to Instant Click Conversions</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<p><em>This post is part of a series entitled <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/series/4-pillars-of-social-media-marketing/">The    Four Pillars of Social Media</a>.  This week’s topics revolve around    the fourth &amp; final pillar, <a href="../category/four-pillars-of-social-media/measurement/">Measurement</a>.</em></p>
<p>Today&#8217;s post wraps up our series on the Four Pillars of Social Media here on Social Conversations.  In this series we covered how to research, plan a strategy, engage your audience and use measuring techniques in your social media marketing efforts for your company.  Whether it&#8217;s a small business, a B2C or a B2B business, these fundamental concepts are what will support your social media marketing strategy, make it strong and successful.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/computer-mouse-click.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-920" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 10px;" title="computer-mouse-click" src="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/computer-mouse-click-300x273.jpg" alt="Click to Conversion rarely happens in Social Media Marketing" width="201" height="183" /></a>I wanted to round out the series with a piece that reminds marketers, directors, senior management and the c-suite that social media marketing is unlike any other online marketing strategy you may implement.  Since the concept of Search Engine Optimization (SEO) and Pay Per Click (PPC) have become such a prominent force in the online marketing world because they can be measured through analytics by seeing the Click to Conversion ratios, companies have become very focused on this to decide whether a program is successful or it failed.</p>
<p>Unfortunately these types of measures don&#8217;t work the same way for your efforts in Social Media Marketing.  It&#8217;s a lot more complex because engagement in social media communities very rarely leads to a person clicking on your link and then purchasing your product or service.  You also have to factor into the whole scheme of measuring your actions online whether its SEO, PPC or media buying, was that &#8220;Click&#8221; affected by something you did in Social Media.</p>
<p>Take for example engagement in forums.  Say you have a team from your engineering department out in a Ruby on Rails forum discussing the latest things they&#8217;ve implemented using RoR.  Someone who&#8217;s been lurking and watching your team share it&#8217;s knowledge posts a reply in the thread saying &#8220;hey thanks, you guys really seem to know your stuff, this helped me a lot&#8221;.  The next thing that person does is looks at one of your team&#8217;s bios.  They then look at their profile on LinkedIn, then look at your company&#8217;s profile on LinkedIn.  From their they click over to your blog and read a few of your thought leadership posts.  After they read those posts, they forward one on to their managing direct with a note that says &#8220;these guys seem to really know their stuff, can we utilize them to help us XYZ project?&#8221;.</p>
<p>The managing director was looking at other companies to help and had never heard of your company until his engineer suggested your blog post.  Now he&#8217;s looking at your company&#8217;s profile on LinkedIn, not only that he&#8217;s checking out who recommended you and those companies to see if they are like his company.  He then clicks on a link to your latest presentation on Slideshare, he passes that on to the CTO, saying &#8220;this company is really impressive, I think we should use them with XYZ project&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/people-talking.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-921" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 10px;" title="business conversations" src="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/people-talking-300x231.jpg" alt="People talk, pass around, research after hearing about something in social media, they don't just click and buy" width="201" height="154" /></a>Now the CTO is checking your company out, he&#8217;s reading your blog too, but he&#8217;s checking out the comments from other companies on your blog and your interaction.  He clicks on a link to your tweet stream and sees you&#8217;re interacting and sharing your knowledge with the community about relevant topics, not what you sang in the shower.  Now, he too is impressed, he emals back to the managing director &#8220;please contact them and set up a meeting, you&#8217;re right they really seem to understand our industry very well&#8221;.</p>
<p>The managing director now types into Google your company name, first he clicks on a PPC ad you have (by mistake), then backs up and clicks on the first result, which leads him to your homepage.  He finds the link to fill out the contact form, and now you have a lead.</p>
<p>So who gets the credit?  If you were just looking at analytics, some may say PPC, some may say SEO &#8211; never did any of the people click into your site first.  Their first encounter was in a forum about Ruby on Rails, their next was LinkedIn, then your blog, then SlideShare, then Twitter.  The last steps were search and then the click into your site to fill out the contact form.</p>
<p>Sometimes it is pretty easy, you can see a click to a product from a link on Facebook, Twitter or a blog post and can see the results.  However, more often than not, the above scenario that I just outlined for you happens hundreds, if not thousands of times a day online.  Marketers just aren&#8217;t aware of all the steps customers are taking to get to the &#8220;conversion&#8221;.  So how are you measuring that?  Are you accounting for this type of scenario in your ROI or bottom line of your entire marketing plan?</p>
<p>Just because social media marketing doesn&#8217;t lead to that instant &#8220;Click Conversion&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t working, it means you have to work a little harder to measure its success.</p>
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		<title>Using Analytics to Help Find Opportunities in Social Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Linnell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share This post is part of a series entitled The Four Pillars of Social Media.  This week’s topics revolve around the fourth &#38; final pillar, Measurement. Finding where relevant conversations around your brand or company are taking place can be an arduous task.  In order to succeed at finding the conversations when they are still [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2010/06/analytics-find-opportunities-social-media/">Using Analytics to Help Find Opportunities in Social Media</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<p><em>This post is part of a series entitled <a href="../series/4-pillars-of-social-media-marketing/">The   Four Pillars of Social Media</a>.  This week’s topics revolve around   the fourth &amp; final pillar, <a href="../category/four-pillars-of-social-media/measurement/">Measurement</a>.</em></p>
<p>Finding where relevant conversations around your brand or company are taking place can be an arduous task.  In order to succeed at finding the conversations when they are still fresh, a mixture of free and paid tools are typically utilized.  While many of these tools are still in their infancy, they generally do a fairly good job at finding conversations that are specific to keywords that you believe are relevant to your brand or company.</p>
<p>There is an additional tool, however, that you already have in place that you’re likely not using to help find relevant conversations.  That tool is your web analytics package.</p>
<h2><strong>What Advantages can a Web Analytics Package Provide?</strong></h2>
<p>Your web analytics package will obviously function differently than your free or paid social media monitoring tools yet it will still provide valuable information that will allow you to quickly engage in relevant conversations.</p>
<p>One key advantage deals with the type of data your web analytics package reports on.  Rather than looking for keywords that are used on social media sites, your web analytics package will be reporting on visitors being referred from social media sites to your site.</p>
<p>Another advantage of your web analytics package is that it likely is reporting the data in near real time.  That means you can immediately know when a conversation is taking place that’s referring visitors to you site.  With social media monitoring tools, you can look more broadly with the use of keywords, but the freshness of the data that’s returned is reliant on how quickly or slowly the tool finds the conversations.  In some cases it could be hours and in others in could be days or weeks, so augmenting the data from social media monitoring tools with your web analytics data can potentially decrease your response time to relevant conversations.</p>
<h2><strong>How can You Find the Relevant Data in Your Web Analytics Package?</strong></h2>
<p>In your web analytics package there is an enormous amount of data relating to your sites visitors.  Knowing how to sift through that data to key in on what’s relevant to your needs is a vital step to finding additional relevant conversations in the social media space.</p>
<p>For this post I’ll use Google Analytics as an example, but you could get similar data from any of the leading web analytics providers.</p>
<p>It’s essentially a two step process to get setup correctly.  The first will be creating a custom report and the second will be creating an advanced segment.</p>
<h3><strong>Creating the Custom Report</strong></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/creating-custom-reports-1.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-907" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" src="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/creating-custom-reports-1-300x269.png" alt="Creating Custom Reports" width="250" height="223" /></a>Basically, with a custom report you want to setup a way to find social media sources that are driving visitors to your site and then determine the actual referring path from each of the sources.  This is done by creating a custom report in Google Analytics.</p>
<p>As the dimension you’ll want to use Source and then Referral Path as a sub dimension.  In the metrics area you’ll want to at least add Visits, but you can also add additional metrics that can give you more insights into the visitors being referred.</p>
<p>Once you’ve saved the custom report, it will allow you to spot social media sites that are driving visitors to your site.  You can then click on any of the sources and see URL(s) within the social media site that’s referring the visitors.</p>
<p>As the report currently stands, all sources will be present when looking at the report.  To help you sift through all the sources you’ll complete the second step in the set up process.</p>
<h3><strong>Creating the Advanced Segment</strong></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/creating-advanced-segments-1.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-908" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" src="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/creating-advanced-segments-1-300x275.png" alt="Creating the Advanced Segement Reports" width="250" height="230" /></a>Creating the required advanced segment can be done in two ways.  You can create an advanced segment that keys in solely on a defined group of social media sites or you can create an advanced segment that excludes your top non social media referring sites.  I prefer the later since it doesn’t limit the number of social media sites that are included in your advanced segment.</p>
<p>To create the advance segment, simply generate a list of your top referring sources.  Create a new advanced segment and add “Source” as the dimension.  For the condition you want to select “Does not match exactly” and then simply add in the first non social media source as the value.</p>
<p>Continue adding additional sources until you feel enough sources have been excluded to allow you to easily go through what remains and pick out the social media sources.  The result should look similar to below, but likely with additional sources added.</p>
<p>This can also be done using regular expressions in the value field, but for visual sake I’ve broken each source out in a separate OR statement.</p>
<p>Once you’ve completed these steps, you’re ready to combine them.  To do that, drill in to the custom report you created and then select only the new advanced segment.  You’ll now be able to spot the top social media sites that are driving visitors to your site.  Click on any of the sources and you’ll be able to see the actual page they were referred from.</p>
<p>You can then go directly to the page and determine if it’s appropriate to engage in the conversation that’s taking place.</p>
<p>Remember that this is in no way a replacement for a social media monitoring tool, but it can be used to augment what you get from such tools as well as potentially decrease your response time in certain cases.</p>
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		<title>The Ghost Tweeting Debate &amp; Measuring Social Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Li Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share First a Little About the &#8220;Ethics&#8221; of Ghost Tweeting&#8230;. While at Search Engine Strategies Chicago I was interviewed by Web Pro News about the panel that I spoke on about Social Media and the ethics of &#8220;ghost tweeting&#8221;.  A lot of people had a lot to say about Guy Kawasaki and his use of [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/12/ghost-tweeting-debate-measuring-social-media/">The Ghost Tweeting Debate &#038; Measuring Social Media</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<h2><strong><em>First a Little About the &#8220;Ethics&#8221; of Ghost Tweeting&#8230;.</em></strong></h2>
<p>While at <a href="http://www.searchenginestrategies.com/chicago" target="_blank">Search Engine Strategies Chicago</a> I was <a href="http://videos.webpronews.com/2009/12/29/ghost-tweeting-right-or-wrong/" target="_blank">interviewed by Web Pro News</a> about the panel that I spoke on about Social Media and the ethics of &#8220;ghost tweeting&#8221;.  A lot of people had a lot to say about Guy Kawasaki and his use of Twitter back in March when he was the keynote speaker at SES NYC, most of it was not good in the eyes of the search marketing experts speaking about his keynote.  Granted, some of his tactics could definitely be classified as spammy, but at the end of the day, Guy Kawasaki is a marketer.</p>
<p>That being said, was his &#8220;Ghost Tweeting&#8221; ethical?  I&#8217;m more of the opinion it&#8217;s not a question of ethics, its more of a question of disclosure and expectations.  Knowing how busy Guy Kawasaki really is, most people likely wouldn&#8217;t have expected him to not be running his Twitter account by himself.  He&#8217;s got staff, he&#8217;s got help.  The problem with the situation was that he wasn&#8217;t disclosing it until Dave Fleet called him out on that fact.  Was his audience in an uproar about it?  Yes, some were, some stopped following, but since the disclosure, he&#8217;s gained more followers.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, its about the relationship you want to make with your audience.  Are you forming personal relationships with your audience, do they expect that from you?  Or are you just disseminating information like Guy does with his account?  There&#8217;s no real interaction going on, so the expectations are much lower. So what&#8217;s ethical, what&#8217;s not?  You&#8217;re audience is actually the one that will decide.  If you are trying to &#8220;trick&#8221; them by employing other people to tweet for you in a personal way, it will show through eventually.</p>
<h2><strong><em>And Then About Measuring Your Social Media&#8230;.</em></strong></h2>
<p>Abby then went on to ask me about Measuring Your Social Media Strategy because Serengeti Communications put on a session about doing just that at SES Chicago.  Measuring has to be a key fundamental part of any Social Media Strategy you implement.  Without measuring how do you know what&#8217;s successful and what isn&#8217;t working?  What are you wasting your time on or what should you dedicate more resources too?  Along with that is your agency &#8211; SEO, PPC, PR or Advertising &#8211; selling you a laundry list of social media tactics because they know how to set up those types of things or is it because there&#8217;s been significant research done and you are going to be actively engaging with people in those social media channels?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly not easy, and there&#8217;s no cookie cutter approach!</p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/483891481_46301967b2.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/483891481_46301967b2.jpg" alt="Do You Have a Measuring Plan for Social Media Marketing?  Photo Credit:  Flickr User: Goldberg" width="200" height="266" /></a>What is success?  What is failure?</strong></p>
<p>When it comes to <em><strong>social media marketing</strong></em>, unless you have a plan to measure what your are doing how will you know?  There&#8217;s a lot to be said about <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/11/social-media-marketing-tactics-sound-social-media-strategy/">planning your social media strategy</a>, <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/08/managing-social-conversations/">knowing where your audience is</a>, <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/08/social-media-strategy-understand-audience/" target="_self">understanding how they talk about you</a>, <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/11/does-something-going-viral-spell-social-mediainstant-success/" target="_self">getting something to go &#8220;viral&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/3634164" target="_blank">accepting the negative with the positive</a>, <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/12/social-media-investment-not-free-marketing-channel/" target="_self">throwing up social media tactics like darts</a> to a bulls-eye.  It&#8217;s subjects we&#8217;ve talked about here on <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a>, but unless you have a <a href="http://searchenginewatch.com/3635113" target="_blank">plan to measure what you are doing</a>, you&#8217;ll never know if what you are doing is worth the investment you are putting into it.</p>
<p>While there&#8217;s a lot of numbers counting, and those numbers can be very subjective, you still need to have a <strong>social media measurement plan</strong>.  For example, counting the number of Twitter followers you have, isn&#8217;t really a great measure if you want to measure the quality of your reach. However if you are just starting up a Twitter account, monitoring and counting how many followers you are attaining on a daily or weekly basis can be decent way of gauging how you are progressing in the beginning.  Once you reach a certain threshold, counting the number of followers can be and overwhelming task to keep up with and weed out the spammers.  It&#8217;s the same for counting the number of fans you have, or friends on other social networking sites.  It can be a good &#8220;check&#8221; but it can&#8217;t be the be all end all to your measurement plan.</p>
<p>A social media marketing measurement plan needs to include a lot of checks and balances.  For example, how do you know if the content you are creating is really valuable to your audience?  Do you count the number of retweets you get?  Or is it the number of retweets from those &#8220;quality&#8221; followers that you&#8217;ve predefined on a list.  Maybe it&#8217;s the number of times your content has been embedded?  Perhaps the amount of traffic that is being driven to your page, or maybe even adding in how much time on site do the visitors coming into the content are averaging.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the whole integration with &#8220;offline&#8221;, if you have those types of measurement.  Even if you are an online business, you likely still need to track something offline.  How are people hearing about you?  Did someone tell them to come to your Facebook page while they talked on a flight to San Diego?  Maybe they sat next to someone at a Coyotes hockey game and it was suggested they check out your video.  How do you account for and measure those aspects of your social media marketing efforts?</p>
<p><em><strong><a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/261305625_e835f7bf34.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/261305625_e835f7bf34.jpg" alt="Have You Put Together a Social Media Marketing Plan Yet?  Photo Credit: Flickr User Wessex Archeology" width="200" height="239" /></a>When it comes down to it, if you can&#8217;t measure it, you need to ask yourself if you should be really implementing that particular social media tactic?</strong></em></p>
<p>Putting together a social media measurement plan should be an integral part of your social media strategy.  It makes sure your entire team is on the same page when it comes to what and how things are going to be measured.  It also gives your team the ammunition they need to prove or disprove that something is working to help or harm your brand or company.  How you are measuring is just as important as what you are measuring as well.  This is why it&#8217;s important that everyone from the C-Suite executives to your data analytics teams understand what the end goals are and what &amp; how you are measuring to see if your efforts are helping you meet those goals.</p>
<p>At the end of the day do you want to really be answering the question from your CMO &#8220;Well why are we still doing this?&#8221; with &#8220;Well because Oprah&#8217;s on Twitter now!&#8221; ?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share Who doesn&#8217;t love &#8220;free&#8221;? Social media is free, isn&#8217;t it? Well in the very basic sense, yes social media is free.  Participating in social media if you are a community member, 9 times out of 10, is at no cost to you from the perspective of joining and engaging.  The only time these social [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/12/social-media-investment-not-free-marketing-channel/">Social Media is an Investment Not a Free Marketing Channel</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<p>Who doesn&#8217;t love &#8220;free&#8221;?</p>
<p><em><strong>Social media is free, isn&#8217;t it?</strong></em> Well in the very basic sense, yes social media is free.  Participating in social media if you are a community member, 9 times out of 10, is at no cost to you from the perspective of joining and engaging.  The only time these social media communities charge a fee is if you are upgrading to some sort of premium or pro account.  Think about Flickr in this case, if you don&#8217;t want to be limited on your daily uploads or want the analytics, you have to upgrade to the professional account.</p>
<p><a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2723279741_eae846ecaa_o.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3186/2723279741_eae846ecaa_o.jpg" alt="Invest Scrabble Letters:  Photo Credit Flickr User WonderWebby" width="251" height="180" /></a>From the community participant&#8217;s end, this is wonderful!  I get to share and connect with people who have the same interests as me without having to pay a fee, who doesn&#8217;t like that concept?  That&#8217;s why social media communities have been around long before the term &#8220;social media&#8221; had ever been coined.</p>
<p>Companies stepping into the idea of marketing in these social media communities with the mistaken idea that marketing within social media communities is &#8220;free&#8221; are a lot of times sadly mistaken at the end of their campaign&#8217;s run.  They find it&#8217;s failed, or rather they are under the impression that their marketing attempt failed and they also find there&#8217;s a lot more involved than they ever realized.  At the end of the day it isn&#8217;t free.  There&#8217;s a whole lot of investment that needs to go on in both resources and technology.</p>
<p>It really makes me curious why companies think they can just put up a Twitter account or a Facebook fan page and think &#8220;this is going to work&#8221; immediately.  A &#8220;<em>Field of Dreams</em>&#8221; Social Media is not, unfortunately if you build it, most likely they <em>won&#8217;t</em> come.  Companies spend millions developing new logos, planning public relations (PR) Events, doing keyword research for SEO and PPC, why should the concepts around social media marketing be any different?  The &#8220;free&#8221; barrier to entry is a huge misnomer and misleads a lot of marketing departments down the wrong path.</p>
<p>So what should a company plan to invest in when looking at a social media strategy?  Well that really depends a lot on what the company hopes to establish in the medium.  Is it increased buzz or brand lift?  How about increased sales or traffic to the site?  Could you want people to sign up for your email list, blog RSS or coupon distribution?  Become part of your own community?  Different goals require different strategies in social media, and they all require different levels and types of resource investment.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quick list to keep in mind of what you&#8217;ll be investing in when you decide that social media is the next medium your company should become actively involved in.</p>
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<li><strong>Investing in Understanding:   &#8220;Where Are We Now&#8221; in the Whole Social Media Sphere</strong><br />
Do people even know who you are?  Is there any buzz about you?  Do they know the products you sell or the services you offer?</li>
<li><strong>Invest in Finding Your Audience</strong><br />
Where are the conversations happening?  Who&#8217;s doing the talking about you?</li>
<li><strong>Invest in the Approach</strong><br />
How do I interact with the social media communities that are talking about me, my industry, products or services?  How do I add value to their lives and not just be another &#8220;noise channel&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>Goals &amp; Measurement Need Investment</strong><br />
Free tools verses Paid Tools?  Free buzz monitoring tools give you limited data, can your strategy work with that limited data, or do you need more robust information?  What about your analytics, are the free tools going to give you enough information to connect the dots of traffic to buzz &amp; engagement to conversions?  Have you even taken the time to plan what goals will make you successful?</li>
<li><strong>Employees are as Social Media Investment in their own right</strong><br />
You pay your employees a salary or an hourly wage to preform tasks for you.  If one of their tasks has to do with social media, that&#8217;s definitely an investment that isn&#8217;t free by any means.  However, it isn&#8217;t just their time engaging you should be planning for, it&#8217;s their time researching, setting goals, training, developing and ultimately fortifying relationships with your audience that you really need to plan for investing in.</li>
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<p>With investment in research, s<a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/3036252334_155c6e104e.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/3036252334_155c6e104e.jpg" alt="Investing Helps Your Success Grow Photo Credit Flickr User Pfala" width="250" height="200" /></a>trategy and measurement companies can see return, or at least if there isn&#8217;t a return they can figure out why.  The investment of time and resources from the onset is likely the biggest factor of whether a company is going to succeed or fail.  Don&#8217;t you want the money and time you&#8217;ve invested to grow your social media strategy into a success rather than just having spaghetti being thrown at the wall?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share Rupert Murdoch the CEO of News Corporation is really creating a bit of buzz in the Search Engine world.  Why?  Well it seems that Murdoch believes that his collection of news sites which include U.S.  media outlets such as FoxNews.com, the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal and international news outlets such as [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/11/rupert-murdochs-news-corp-sites-survive-google-social-media-key/">Can Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s News Corp Sites Survive Without Google?  Could Social Media be the Key?</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/rupert-murdoch.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-476" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" title="rupert-murdoch" src="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/rupert-murdoch-300x210.jpg" alt="Rupert Murdoch Threatens to Remove News Corporations Media Sites from Google" width="240" height="168" /></a>Rupert Murdoch the CEO of News Corporation is really creating a bit of buzz in the Search Engine world.  Why?  Well it seems that Murdoch believes that his collection of news sites which include U.S.  media outlets such as FoxNews.com, the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal and international news outlets such as the Daily Telegraph in Australia, The Sun and The Times in the UK as well as channels such as National Geographic, would not suffer greatly if he blocked Google from accessing them and allowing Google to have them in their index and offering them up as relevant search results for searches done on the site.</p>
<p>So is he crazy?  Does he really realize the effect that taking such a drastic measure will have on his search traffic?  I would suppose they have some inkling since Jonathan Miller, News Corp&#8217;s chief digital officer was <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/digital-media/6559694/Rupert-Murdoch-to-remove-News-Corps-content-from-Google-in-months.html" target="_blank">quoted by the Telegraph.co.uk</a> as saying</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The traffic which comes in from Google brings a consumer who more often than    not read one article and then leaves the site. That is the least valuable of    traffic to us… the economic impact [of not having content indexed by Google]    is not as great as you might think. You can survive without it.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I cannot claim to be an expert of News Corp&#8217;s properties or their properties&#8217; demographics, but most people consume their news these days via hearing about it on a site, primarily social media sites, and then going to a search engine to find out more.  It&#8217;s happening more and more these days &#8211; look at how much Twitter and its trending topics affect how people search.</p>
<p>When people see things trending on Twitter, say for example like Kayne or Taylor Swift when Kayne so rudely interrupted Taylor&#8217;s acceptance speech for an award.  On Twitter you saw that both Kayne and Taylor Swift were trending terms shortly after the incident happend.  Without going to a search engine to figure out why they were trending, you&#8217;d have to guess through the tweets that were happening.  By going to the Google, at that time, searching for either one of their names produced a news one box with links to news articles that contained a lot more relevant information.</p>
<p>While Miller says the traffic received from Google is the least valuable, I wonder where they are looking to get more valuable traffic?  Other than relying on their return visitors through bookmarks or direct type ins, there&#8217;s not much more valuable traffic.</p>
<p>Social Media although it looks like it could be the answer to all their prayers, if you take a look closer, it&#8217;s likely even less valuable than Google&#8217;s traffic.  News media sites primarily focus on social news sites like Digg, Fark, Reddit or Ballhype.  If they are expecting better traffic they should really look at how members of these communities function.  Community members in these sites click on the story to see if they want to vote for it and immediately leave to go vote on more stories back on the social news sites.  This type of &#8220;hit and run&#8221; traffic is a lot less valuable if you are trying to get the visitor to stay on the site longer or view other  pages.</p>
<p>At least with search traffic coming from Google visitors stay on the site longer, especially if there&#8217;s photos or videos to interact with on the content, because they want to become educated on the topic they searched for.</p>
<p>All of this hull-a-baloo that Murdoch is making sounds more like someone who&#8217;s just pissed off with the popular kid they were playing with and wants to take his toys home so no one else can play unless they come with him and that hopes the rest of his &#8220;gang&#8221; will follow him back to his house.</p>
<p>If other news sites actually start analyzing their web analytics for their sites and really break down the search traffic, I have a feeling they are going to continue to &#8220;play&#8221; with Google because they will find the traffic from Google is actually quite valuable.  They also might find that while Social Media News Sites will drive traffic, if they segment that out and analyze that as well, they can see a difference in the quality via time on site and pages viewed.</p>
<p>So what say you?  Is Murdoch crazy for pulling his sites from Google or is he&#8217;s one of the smartest guys to try and start a &#8220;Google Revolt&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/11/rupert-murdochs-news-corp-sites-survive-google-social-media-key/">Can Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s News Corp Sites Survive Without Google?  Could Social Media be the Key?</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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		<title>New Google Analytics Features Can Help You Track Your Social Media Success &amp; Failures</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Li Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share While attending the eMetrics conference in the Washtington, DC area, Google&#8217;s Analytics Evangelist, Avinash Kaushik announced a whole slew of new features being applied to Google Analytics.  From my take on it from a social media perspective, this can help companies start to track some of their measurements they were doing manually for measurement [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/10/google-analytics-features-track-social-media-success-failures/">New Google Analytics Features Can Help You Track Your Social Media Success &#038; Failures</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trending-slide-GA-preso-emetrics.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-461" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" title="trending-slide-GA-preso-emetrics" src="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trending-slide-GA-preso-emetrics-300x199.jpg" alt="trending-slide-GA-preso-emetrics" width="210" height="153" /></a>While attending the <a href="http://www.emetrics.org" target="_blank">eMetrics conference</a> in the Washtington, DC area, Google&#8217;s Analytics Evangelist, <a href="www.kaushik.net" target="_blank">Avinash Kaushik</a> announced a whole slew of new features being applied to Google Analytics.  From my take on it from a social media perspective, this can help companies start to track some of their measurements they were doing manually for measurement in social media.</p>
<p>So what all did Avinash announce?</p>
<ul>
<li>Experimental API for Google Website Optimizer</li>
<li>Unlimited unique user analysis (which also shows as trending)
<ul>
<li>Avinash emphasized it&#8217;s &#8220;True&#8221; unique user data</li>
<li>You also can do this by picking unique time frames, you don&#8217;t have to &#8220;add&#8221; all your data together like with other analytics packages</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Advanced Table Filtering &#8211; Avinash calls this &#8220;In Line Analysis
<ul>
<li>You can choose your segmentation values</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>2 New Behavior Types of Goal Tracking
<ul>
<li>Number of Pages View</li>
<li>Time</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Custom Variables
<ul>
<li>Setting up variables such as
<ul>
<li>Comments left on blog</li>
<li>Traffic coming in from specific types of sites (such as blogs)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>You can track things at a visitor, session, page  (visit) level</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Free Mobile Application (Apps) Tracking</li>
<li> Custom Alerts
<ul>
<li>You want to know about those people coming from blogs &#8211; you can be alerted now!</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Intelligence  &#8211; New Dashboard Additions
<ul>
<li>Automatic Alerts &#8211; these will appear automatically now when you log into GA and see your dashboard.  GA&#8217;s algorithm will look for anomalies in your data and alert you to them automatically</li>
</ul>
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</ul>
<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/unique-visitors-GA-preso-emetrics.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-462" style="border: 0pt none; margin: 5px;" title="unique-visitors-GA-preso-emetrics" src="http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/unique-visitors-GA-preso-emetrics-300x199.jpg" alt="unique-visitors-GA-preso-emetrics" width="245" height="162" /></a>Avinash also went on to say that this new intelligence which is giving you a peek into the &#8220;unknowns&#8221; is only phase one of what Google&#8217;s planning to roll out.</p>
<p>So how does this help your social media strategy and measurement?  Well for starters as Avinash pointed out, you can now track comments in Google Analytics by setting up custom variables.  This is something currently you have to manually put into a spreadsheet to keep track of, now it can be easily integrated into your Google Analytics tracking.</p>
<p>The same could be said for monitoring how much traffic you are getting from blogs, or specific types of sites.  The custom alerts allow you to be notified and this could even help you discover unknown sites that are helping to disseminate your content.  There&#8217;s a lot between the custom alerts and custom variables that you can put into place to help you measure some of the things you are doing manually now, all within Google Analytics.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the mobile app tracking.  To me, this is huge!  Before you&#8217;d have to guess someone was using a mobile app by the browser they come in on &#8220;iPhone&#8221; or &#8220;blackberry&#8221; being listed.  With this new announcement from Google Analytics, this can  help any company wanting to know how mobile applications are affecting the traffic to their sites.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to read more about the specifics of each of these announcements, the Google Analytics blog has <a href="http://analytics.blogspot.com/2009/10/google-analytics-now-more-powerful.html" target="_blank">detailed information about how each of these new features work</a>.  I highly suggest taking the time to read up on them and implement them into your own measurement strategy for social media.</p>
<p>While this isn&#8217;t the be-all end-all way of measuring for social media, these new features that Google is adding to Google Analytics can help take some of that manual counting and heavy lifting off of your plate, if implemented in the correct fashion.  One of the nice things about these new features is that as Avinash put it, you don&#8217;t need a &#8220;God&#8221; to code this stuff for you to have it work, its very easy to implement.</p>
<p>On an off note, wishing a speedy recovery to Avinash!  Hope that arm heals up fast! <img src='http://www.socialconversations.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>#SMMetrics Tweet Chat Transcript for 09/09/09</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Li Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share Yesterday we launched the first tweet chat aimed at discussion and conversation about social media metrics, both measuring and monitoring.  The focus of the conversation was around &#8220;Are Free Monitoring Tools Enough to Measure Your Social Media Efforts&#8221;. There&#8217;s a lot of confusion out there about what to mesaure and how to measure it.  [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/09/smmetrics-tweet-chat-transcript-090909/">#SMMetrics Tweet Chat Transcript for 09/09/09</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<p>Yesterday we launched the first tweet chat aimed at discussion and conversation about social media metrics, both measuring and monitoring.  The focus of the conversation was around &#8220;Are Free Monitoring Tools Enough to Measure Your Social Media Efforts&#8221;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of confusion out there about what to mesaure and how to measure it.  People are finding that a mix of free tools, paid tools, home grown tools and spreadsheets can all work together to accomplish their tasks.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve taken the transcript of the #SMMetrics Tweetchat from yesterday and made it into a PDF that you can download and print, or just view.</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/smmetrics-transcripts/smmetrics_transcript_9-9-09.pdf" target="_blank">#SMMetrics Tweet Chat Transcript 09/09/09 </a></li>
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<p>Next week <a href="http://www.twitter.com/nathan_linnell" target="_blank">@nathan_linnell</a> (Nathan Linnell) will be heading up the TweetChat and topic will be &#8220;<em><strong>What Metrics Are You Using to Track/Monitor Your Social Media Efforts</strong></em>&#8220;. To follow or join in the conversations around social media metrics just follow the hashtag #smmetric and include it in your tweets so we&#8217;ll see your questions and contributions.</p>
<p>#SMMetrics Tweet Chat is Every Wednesday at 1 p.m. EST.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Li Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share Nate Linnell (@nathan_linnell) and I (@storyspinner) noticed that there wasn&#8217;t a lot of discussion going on about metrics, monitoring and measuring in social media, so we decided to lead up that charge! Starting on Wednesday September 9th at 1 PM Easter time, we&#8217;ll engage the Twitter community in a talk about Social Media Metrics. [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/09/join-smmetric-chat-wednesdays-1-pm-est/">Join Us for #SMMetrics Chat &#8211; Wednesdays at 1 p.m. EST</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Share Serengeti Communications Interview at Search Engines Strategies While in San Jose, CA for Search Engine Strategies in August, I was interviewed by the Search Engine Strategies team about building relationships in social media communities.  It is a bit longer of an interview, but I discuss a few points that we really didn&#8217;t get into [...]<p><a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/09/building-relationships-social-video-interview/">Building Relationships in Social Media Video Interview</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com">Social Conversations</a></p>



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<h2><a href="http://www.serengeticommunications.com" target="_blank">Serengeti</a> Communications Interview at Search Engines Strategies</h2>
<p>While in San Jose, CA for Search Engine Strategies in August, I was interviewed by the Search Engine Strategies team about building relationships in social media communities.  It is a bit longer of an interview, but I discuss a few points that we really didn&#8217;t get into on the panel that discussed <a href="http://www.socialconversations.com/2009/08/managing-social-conversations/">managing social conversations</a>.  John asked some great questions which the audience didn&#8217;t and in social media, really needs to be addressed.</p>
<p>We discuss tying social media to your bottom line, and what that bottom line really means.  Unfortunately some companies are deeming that social media doesn&#8217;t work because it isn&#8217;t selling more of their products.  Click to purchase rarely happens in social media, instead companies must look at other measurement methods to understand exactly how successful or unsuccessful their efforts are.</p>
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